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		<title>Do you think ALL adoptee&#8217;s feel the SAME about their adoption in terms of loss?</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><div>No doubt there is an initial loss of being seperated from the natural family. But do you expect that all adoptee&#8217;s are going to feel the same level of loss?</div>
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<div>What about those who are raised without secrets and lies or in open adoption? Is it possible for some to have a healthier outlook on their adoption than others?</div>
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<div>By &#8220;healthier&#8221; I mean more positve outlook and self-esteem and at peace with their adoption circumstances.
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<p>I agree that it&#8217;s not healthy to &#8220;stuff&#8221;  feelings. But is it assumed that  adoptee&#8217;s who claim to be &#8220;not bitter&#8221; do that?</p>
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<p>Sunny &#8211; I wish I could give you ten thumbs up!</p>
<p>Questioner &#8211; I&#8217;m going to answer your question, but maybe from a more literal stand-point, just because (most) everyone else is being refreshingly on point and trying to be objective and you&#8217;ve got some great general answers there.</p>
<p>-  First, I think loss is loss is loss.<br />
- Second, I think you can weight the losses. For example, losing a mom is HUGE, no matter what your age or circumstance, on a visceral level<br />
-  Third, losses ADD UP.</p>
<p>losing faith<br />
losing relationship<br />
losing your country<br />
losing your culture<br />
losing your heritage<br />
losing your language<br />
losing trust<br />
losing innocence<br />
losing ignorance</p>
<p>it&#8217;s like a soup of pain: the bulk of each adoptee&#8217;s experience is loss of mother. then each soup is made unique depending on the combination of other added losses.</p>
<p>my best adoptee friend has all of the above. she lost her mother by death. a few years later she literally got lost. she lost her father by adoption when nobody searched for her father &#8211; even though she was 9 and knew his name &#8211; she lost her siblings &#8211; she lost her country when she was sent to America &#8211; she lost her heritage &#8211; she lost her culture &#8211; after two years, all her language was lost &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t long before her innocence was lost when her adoptive father abused her &#8211; and all this time. she was fully aware of her powerlessness because of her age. So in the end she lost all the relationships she valued, she lost faith in the charity and responsibility of adults, and she lost trust in those pledged to care for her.</p>
<p>We tend to focus on the main loss, but there can be so many. This is why I call myself an adoption survivor. Because for me and many of my fellow adoptees, we shoulder so many losses on top of the main loss.</p>
<p>How can you measure something like that? I&#8217;d like to measure it in dollars and sue the adoption agencies. I&#8217;m hoping someone with a water tight case can and does.</p>
<p>As for your additional details.</p>
<p>I personally have a great deal of empathy for the &#8220;not bitter&#8221; adoptees, though I do wish they wouldn&#8217;t protest so much and see me and my experience as the enemy. Just like them, I don&#8217;t want to be pitied &#8211; I just want to see change for the better, and that requires some sympathy. Two different animals entirely.</p>
<p>Regarding those so-called &#8220;kool-aid&#8221; adoptees, I feel for them. When you&#8217;ve got everything as good as it gets, then whatever feelings you have about losing your mother become incredibly treacherous waters to navigate. When you&#8217;ve got no other additional losses that can share some of the heat, then you&#8217;ve very little allowance to complain. The margin for even the smallest expressions of pain becomes extremely prohibitive. That&#8217;s a tight-rope I wouldn&#8217;t want to walk, and a much more difficult position from which to discern one&#8217;s deepest feelings. Some may call this denial. I call this an ineffective way of dealing with the core issues.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to add that a &#8220;healthier outlook on their adoption&#8221; and positive outlook and self esteem are not the same thing. I can have a positive outlook and very high self esteem and still have a negative outlook on adoption. Maybe instead of &#8220;healthier outlook on their adoption&#8221; you meant &#8220;more socially acceptable outlook on adoption&#8221; ? Other than that, it&#8217;s just common sense that those who have been treated with more equality and given the truth won&#8217;t have to add injustice at the hands of their parents onto their loss will have less of a burden to carry.</p>
<p>We all experience loss and struggle with it in our own ways, due to our infinitely varied circumstances. We all do the best that we can because we have no choice. Peace does come through acceptance of our adoption circumstance.<em> However, some things no human should be asked to be at peace with: like violations of our civil rights, exploitation, abuse, etc. And as long as adoption is involuntary, as long as there is exploitation, as long as there are violations of our civil rights and the obliteration of our identities, then we should not rest.</em></p>
<p>Because no child should have to experience even one added loss on top of losing their mother, and no child should lose their mother just to fill the arms of another, which happens far more than anyone cares to admit. These losses are preventable. Prevent, and we don&#8217;t have to ask these questions.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Reading the following <em><a href="http://surrealist.org/gurukula/abusesymptoms.html">Traits of Families that Tolerate Incest and Child Abuse</a> </em>got me to thinking, and so I wanted to respond to each of the points they made so maybe you could see what an incest abuse house might look like:</p>
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<p><strong>Poly-abusive</strong><br />
Sexual child abuse is just one of a number of abuses taking place in  an incest family. There may also be a history of family violence,  substance abuse, and other criminal activity.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">This wasn&#8217;t the case in my family, at least not that I know of.   My family was all about self-control to probably an abnormal degree.  Interviewing my father in later years I found out that his sister and father went to Florida together for a week, and that she came back, &#8220;different.&#8221;  I am sure there is more to the story, and I wonder to what extent it affected the rest of my father&#8217;s family, as there were five brothers and my aunt was the only girl.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">My father blames his abuse on drinking.  However, he was not an alcoholic, and he was not drunk when the abuse began.  Later, these incidents coincided because the only time he could have an excuse for not being in my mother&#8217;s bed was when he was playing his bass on a gig, and drinks were provided to the musicians gratis.</p>
<p><strong>Duplicity, deceit, collective secrets</strong><br />
The incest family hides its embarrassing secrets.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Incest is so taboo it doesn&#8217;t come up in any conversation, so it&#8217;s a level of secrecy too secret to even acknowledge to oneself. However, There weren&#8217;t collective secrets in my house.  I think it was more a sign of the times with their generation that would not air any dirty laundry out in public.  Or even to family members.  We didn&#8217;t have collective secrets but kept secrets from each other.</p>
<p><strong>Rigid and tightly controlled</strong><br />
Incest families have rigid rules to prevent revelation of their secrets.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">My family was extremely tightly controlled.  Mostly this was my mom&#8217;s doing.  If she was silently seething about something, you could tell because she would have micro-perceptible tics, and you breathed a little quieter and walked silently and made to sure to be ultra sensitive and stay clear of trouble.  The problem was that this was not a rare occasion.  She was like a hawk, and one sidelong glance was all it took.  It was like living in a library with the most vigilant librarian imaginable on duty, the one who hated her life and hated people.  So there was always this psychological tension in the air that you didn&#8217;t want to trip up.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Together, probably due to my mother&#8217;s influence, our family had strict rules about the activity and behavior of children.  It was a strange hybrid of progressive liberalism from my father and repressed Victorianism from my mother.  We were to be seen and not heard, but when we were asked to speak, it should be something progressive and liberal coming out of our mouths.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">I was kept on an extremely short leash:  one time at 12 years old I went to the neighbors to borrow something, was gone for ten minutes, and my mother totally freaked out because I had been missing when she called on me.  When a woman with tics who rarely speaks freaks out, it&#8217;s twice as scary as when someone just gets angry.  I still shudder thinking about it.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">You know how you go to visit some establishments as a child and you are made to understand that there are strict rules for decorum?  You keep your knees together.  You make sure your skirt covers your bottom when you sit.  You cross your ankles together under your chair.  You don&#8217;t bounce your legs or tap your toes.  You sit upright.  You don&#8217;t put your elbows on the tables, etc., etc.  Well, that&#8217;s how I felt in my house every day.  A billion unspoken rules, any violation of which would raise an eyebrow, or cause the corner of the mouth to twitch, or worse some silent muttering.  I wanted to please so badly, and every little sign of disapproval was pointed and severe.  Yes.  I was tightly and masterfully controlled.</p>
<p><strong>Demand for blind, absolute loyalty</strong><br />
Incest families usually have a domineering head of household who rules  the family through force.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Force?  or fear of madness?  My mother ran the household, because it was her realm &#8211; a booby prize of control because she had no life of her own.  Everything about her was about control:  controlling her emotions and making sure everyone else controlled theirs as well.  There was no force, except the police state of her stare.  That stare can not be underestimated, and I lived in constant silent fear of upsetting her precarious balance.</p>
<p><strong>Poor boundaries</strong><br />
Disrespect for each others&#8217; privacy, rights, and individuality is  common in incest families.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Again, my family liked to think of themselves as progressive liberals.  Bathrooms were not private.  We only had one, and toilet use trumped shower use.  So in a household of six, this meant a lot of exposure.  Too soon, however, we were a household of three.  Nakedness or modesty was not respected, because both my parents were freely naked in front of us, ostensibly to prove in their liberal self-image that bodies were beautiful and nothing to be ashamed of.  So I saw much more than I wanted to see.  And I couldn&#8217;t, in defense, ask for privacy, because it was off the table as an issue.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">My father&#8217;s hip liberal attitude included family baths &#8211; and my mother participated probably only because he urged her to.  The bath is where my abuse started.  Family baths that my mother opted out of, to have more time to herself.</p>
<p><strong>Parents immature and inexperienced in life</strong><br />
Parents of incest families usually never become fully mature adults.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">While my parents were both very responsible and upstanding citizens, I would have to characterize them both as being very immature.  They didn&#8217;t take action to improve themselves or gain more understanding.  Their actions were self-absorbed like those of children.  They did not learn from situations.  My father was a whiner, a pouter.  My mother avoided situations.  These were not emotionally evolving people in any sense of the word.</p>
<p><strong>Conflictual marriage or troubled divorce</strong><br />
In incest families, this may refer to situations where children are  pushed into the drama between a conflicted mother and father.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">The hallmark of my parents&#8217; relationship was no communication.  They did not speak of issues in front of us children, ever, and would go behind closed doors to literally whisper their disagreements.  Again, the environment was tightly controlled, especially emotions.  Afterward, it was clear that nothing had been resolved and a wall of silence was what we were taught by example, as how to deal with relationships.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">My father used me for validation when my mother wasn&#8217;t around.  He would try to get me to sympathize with him.  Later, he would use me as a confident and tell me their relationship problems.  Still later, he told me he turned to me because  my mom was &#8220;cold&#8221; to him in bed.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">My mother was perpetually miserable in crush on someone else.  For some reason my siblings were unaware of this, but I could see it/feel it.  And later confessionals with my parents confirmed this.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">What we had here were two people dependent upon each other in a maternal/paternal way, but who both felt trapped.</p>
<p><strong>No childhood for the children</strong><br />
Incest families are somber and strict places, where the authority  figure (usually one of the parents) dictates behavior for everyone  else. Rather than let children run around and play, they force  children into a regimented routine.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">The sound of children playing was like nails on chalkboard to my mother.  She liked babies.  But didn&#8217;t really care for children.  She wanted to read and fantasize and escape, and me making any noise at all would destroy her perpetual search for reverie.   She also shut down joking amongst my father and brothers, and any time my father was happy or whistling or in a good mood, she shut that down too.  It&#8217;s as if her unquiet suffering mind required all her focus and concentration, and any disruption which brought ugly reality into that effort was frowned upon.</p>
<p><strong>Chaotic situations, traumatic stress</strong><br />
Incest often takes place in chaotic households, with unstable roots.  These families may move often and lack connections to any one community.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Or, these families carefully craft a place in community, superficially always present, yet not really engaged with any of it.  My parents really had no friends, despite attending church gatherings for fellowship.<strong><br />
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<p><strong>Low level of appropriate touch</strong><br />
In the most toxic incest families all touching is considered taboo.  Parents do not hug, caress, or cuddle their children, as normal families  do. This is perhaps the most telling symptom of incest.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Bingo.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">I can remember being asked for a kiss at times &#8211; you know, the kind of staged pucker-up type of full-on kisses.  But there were no random kisses to the head, no caresses, no holding hands except in dangerous traffic situations, no bear hugs. In short, no physical affection of any kind.  Occasionally I would see my mom smiling or amused over something.  But affection to her was buying me a soda or an educational workbook and watching me enjoy it.  But touch?  nope.  nothing.  One story my mother repeated several times was of breaking a hair brush over my sister&#8217;s head because she squirmed while she was fixing her hair.  I sat very still as a result.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">My father, on the other hand, loved to wash my hands and clip my nails.  It was these small opportunities for skin contact, in an environment where there was no touching allowed, which fed him in some dark way, and which was a precursor for his uncontrollable desire to molest me.</p>
<p><strong>Compensating veneer of religiosity</strong><br />
Incest perpetrators often hide behind an external show of religion.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Church was my family&#8217;s only social life.  Religion is great.  It provides the facade of community and bolsters their place in society.  It convinces them that they aren&#8217;t really the anti-social misfits they really are.</p>
<p>What was my home environment like?</p>
<p>Well, I can tell you that at first glance it looked like anybody else&#8217;s house.  Except that it was eerily quiet.  It was heavy, like kryptonite.  But of course that would change if anybody came over:  then my home became a mirror of whoever came to visit&#8217;s personality.</p>
<p>What facilitated my abuse?</p>
<p>In retrospect, it was my mother.  Not on purpose.  But everything she did set up that heavy environment.  Except for the t.v., which was my babysitter, no noise was tolerated.  Where was she during my bath time?  Where were my siblings?  Why did everyone allow my father to read me bedtime stories every night by himself?  Why did we do nothing together as a family?</p>
<p>And that one day when the social worker came to visit, (I vaguely remember my mom cleaning house for the social worker&#8217;s visit and how perfect she was that day) how could they be so clueless?  Did they even bother to look closely?  Did they see us play and interact?  (of course not &#8211; there was no play) Did they look at our photo albums and see any candid fun shots?  (of course not &#8211; there were no candid fun moments)  Did they do anything besides have some coffee and ask my parents how I was doing? Of course not.</p>
<p>So actually, EVERYONE facilitated my abuse.  The entire family was so lost in their own misery nobody thought about me or that I was a child or what I needed as a child.  And the social worker was just there to rubber stamp everything.</p>
<p>Gack, I should have gone into social work.  This is just so distressing to think someone could have caught this.   I know I could walk into such a home, sniff, and say, &#8220;something&#8217;s not right.&#8221;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I&#8217;ve got no insights, revelations, or provocations.  Today I am merely asking questions.  The question I mainly want to ask is: How do we screen out Woody Allen? There are a few of us molested Korean adoptees who have come out of the shadows to speak about the traumatic consequences of latent [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=adoptionsurvivor.wordpress.com&blog=4905896&post=404&subd=adoptionsurvivor&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Today I&#8217;ve got no insights, revelations, or provocations.  Today I am merely asking questions.  The question I mainly want to ask is: <strong>How do we screen out Woody Allen?</strong> There are a few of us molested Korean adoptees who have come out of the shadows to speak about the traumatic consequences of latent yellow fever combined with the ability to adopt yellow.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Do these men KNOW they have yellow fever when they adopt? Is that why they choose Asian countries to adopt from?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Are these men pedophiles before they adopt?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">What is it about these men that allows them to cross personal boundaries, morals, and ethics?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">How is it these men are so infantile and self-absorbed they ultimately can not control their urges?</p>
<p>WHY WERE MY FATHER&#8217;S WHITE, BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN NOT MOLESTED, BUT I WAS?</p>
<p>My similarly abused Korean adoptee friends and I all share the above question.  In addition to the exclusive attention, I was also treated differently in many other ways than my non-adopted siblings were:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">As confidant &#8211;  about relationship matters between my father and mother. (I was a child, for God&#8217;s sake &#8211; who didn&#8217;t need to know that information)</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">As a special prize &#8211; The man actually referred to me as his little concubine&#8230;(I can&#8217;t tell you how gross that feels)</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">As an equal (yet fictional) participant &#8211; and this is where it gets weird &#8211; most of us were not raped and most of us our abuse ended after puberty. But let me tell you &#8211; physical pain is nothing compared to having our minds twisted inside out, and molestation or rape or both &#8211; it&#8217;s still all about control.  And the thing about incest is that it&#8217;s a captive audience, and in the adoptee&#8217;s case, a captured audience.  In a private hell that lasts sometimes over a decade, from which the only escape is actual physical escape.  And who&#8217;s entire family dynamics are permanently scarred long after the abuse ends.  Because incest is chronic.  Our fathers rationalized they were above rapists because they <em>loved</em> us.  Not only did they have to relieve themselves, but they also wanted us to <em>love</em> it.  And them.  In a super natural way.  It was some sick ego masturbation going on.  And the greater the challenge or convoluted nature of it all, the more illicit and rewarding for them.</p>
<p>In their socially retarded fantasy world, what they were really hoping for was what Woody Allan got:  a child bride.  Not just any child bride.  An ASIAN child bride.  Because of the mystique of Asian women.  Because we were so docile.  (because we were scared shitless because we had to adjust to a new and foreign life.  I am not making this up, that is how I felt but if you&#8217;d asked me at the time I would have told you how thankful I was to be adopted)   Because they thought of us as if we were little geisha.  This is my theory.  I can only venture to guess, but they are educated guesses because I LIVED with the man fourteen+ years.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Did my father intentionally adopt me to molest me?  Of course not.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Did my father think Asian women were alluring?  The idea probably fascinated him.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Was my father sexually attracted to other children?  <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">Maybe</span>.  Probably.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">But did he cross the line with anyone else?  No.  Just the Asian adopted daughter.  Because the adopted Asian daughter is both exotic, vulnerable and, most importantly, accessible.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">And that social taboo against incest?  Not quite so strong when the child is not your blood&#8230;</p>
<p>Did Woody Allen date Mia Farrow because she had adopted daughters, one of them Asian?  Maybe&#8230;their presence certainly made Mia more interesting.  Maybe they were more interesting than Mia.  Maybe they became an obsession.  Woody was lucky, (from my father&#8217;s perspective) in that he didn&#8217;t have complete and total access to Mia&#8217;s children and that he was &#8216;t technically married to Mia, so he was free to turn the fantasy into reality.</p>
<p>Think about it, and it&#8217;s a recipe for disaster:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Take one relationship frustrated, sexually frustrated, sensitive, self-absorbed immature man</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Give him close proximity and access to his fantasy and curiosity about the exotic</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Now make the fantasy helpless and under his care, so that his love for his adorable charge grows each day</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Let the relationship grow over time until the child trusts and loves him.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">The acceptance is confusing and feeds the man&#8217;s longings for love, exciting the man</p>
<p>All of these things are hidden from the naked eye, from paperwork, from the itemized lists of social workers. All of the quantifiable qualities of an adoptive parent, these men PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">For the love of God, why can&#8217;t anyone BE A JUDGE OF CHARACTER when it comes to the safety of children?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">How can we leave the adoptive parent&#8217;s judges of character to be self selected?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Why do we have to be objective when screening parents?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Isn&#8217;t subjectivity and gut instinct valuable in this instance?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">How many children could I save alone if I were allowed to be a diviner or barometer?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">The answer?   Many.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t find these men by looking at their bank account or their social activities or their job stability or their church affiliation or who will vouch for them.  You won&#8217;t find these men with a short interview and handshake &#8211; they appear affable, magnanimous, and personable.  Hell &#8211; any psychopath can trick almost anyone into thinking they are someone that cares, that you want to trust.  (not that these men are psychopaths &#8211; they are a different creature entirely)  No.  You find these men by learning about their world view &#8211; which will almost always be essentially self-absorbed.  And their mannerisms &#8211; which will be pouting or petulant, or delicate.  And their rationalizations, obsessions and neurosis &#8211; <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">which will come out through extensive interview about ethical and timely topics</span>. (see amendment *** below)  And their cowardice.  And the way in which they look adoringly at an Asian child:  I&#8217;m sure there is a scientifically measurable difference in their physical response.</p>
<p>There is a sixth sense we abuse victims have &#8211; the hair that rises on the back of your neck, the sick feeling in your stomach, the understanding when you see a child old beyond their years hand in hand with a protective yet charismatic father. I do hope someone can do some scholarly work and profile these men:  interview fathers convicted of incest, convicted pedophiles, men in rehab programs.  There are commonalities, I am sure of it.  There must be predictors that can be used to rule out these adoption candidates.  At present, the only thing I and my other sisters in abuse have found is in <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2009/09/24/2009-09-24_the_warning_signs_of_incest_.html#ixzz0S2pXBQPZ">this article</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Incest is more likely to occur in a family where at least one parent is a stepparent, said <a title="Alan Davis" href="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Alan+Davis" target="_blank">Alan Davis</a>, head of the <a title="National Council on Child Abuse and Family Violence" href="http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/National+Council+on+Child+Abuse+and+Family+Violence" target="_blank">National Council on Child Abuse and Family Violence</a>, and <strong>it shows up far more often in homes where both parents are not the natural parents</strong>.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I also once tried to compare the rates of incest in biological families as compared to adopted families, but found that the data only indicated whether or not the families were natural or not natural, and that each state defined non-traditional families differently, so there was no way to filter the studies for adoption, as it wasn&#8217;t included as a variable in many of the studies. But if incest is more likely to occur in a family where BOTH parents are NOT biological, then doesn&#8217;t it follow that it is more likely to occur in an adoptive family as well?  And to us sexually abused Asian adoptees, given the deeply ingrained proclivity to infanticize and sexualize Asian females in our culture, then it seems like  a no brainer that we are especially at risk.</p>
<p>Please, somebody, please look into this &#8211; Not only collect data on past cases, but come up with a psychological profile of the adopting incest perpetrator.  Because even one Woody Allen that slips through the present &#8220;screening&#8221; process is one too many.</p>
<p>***<br />
Oh &#8211; and I wanted to correct that, on second thought,  interviewing these men about ethics and topical issues wasn&#8217;t really best, because they know what the socially accepted answers are.  More revealing would be talking about relationships.  These men never take responsibility for their part in relationships &#8211; they are always the victim.  Their roles are often frustrated and they feel dis-empowered.  They seek out young friends/lovers that are weaker than themselves, because their lack of control over their own lives makes them feel impotent in some way.  Innocence turns them on.  It is my belief that the man who turns to his own children is often very weak in the social pecking order of male supremacy.</p>
<p>In addition, it is not just the infantalization and sexualization of Asian females, but also the feminization of Asian boys&#8230;who are also incest victims.</p>
<p>I also wanted to add that, off the record, a worker at an organization to help Korean adoptees in search of their birth families estimated that it was their experience that approximately 50% of the adoptees they had encountered had suffered abuse at the hands of their adoptive parents.  These personal anecdotes were not something initially revealed or revealed on paper. There have been 76,646 adoptees who have returned to search for their families.  Given those figures, the unofficial count of abused adoptees could be staggering.</p>
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		<title>What does &#8220;feelings of abandonment&#8221; actually mean?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve noticed that many of the adoptees on this forum mention experiencing feelings of abandonment.
Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but what do feelings of abandonment actually feel like? How does it actually make you feel? Do you feel alone? How does it affect your life growing up? Do you have difficulty with [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=adoptionsurvivor.wordpress.com&blog=4905896&post=399&subd=adoptionsurvivor&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><div>I&#8217;ve noticed that many of the adoptees on this forum mention experiencing feelings of abandonment.</p>
<p>Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but what do feelings of abandonment actually feel like? How does it actually make you feel? Do you feel alone? How does it affect your life growing up? Do you have difficulty with trust and forming relationships with others?</p>
<p>Sorry, I am not trying to be stupid or insensitive, I just don&#8217;t really know what it feels like. I&#8217;m doing a project for school about adoption, and I think it&#8217;ll be a lot better if I can actually understand what it&#8217;s like to be adopted.</p>
<p>All answers appreciated. The more details the better, please.</p>
<p>Thanks so much. :)</p></div>
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<div>I&#8217;m still in denial about this. I&#8217;m actually pretty cut off from my emotions and can&#8217;t describe what I&#8217;m feeling most of the time. I only found out about this, and that I probably have it, because other people tell me I must feel this way. So I&#8217;m still deducing what it actually is/feels like, and the way I do that is by surveying everything else, since the abandonment issue is like a hole that can&#8217;t be defined.</p>
<p>What I can do, however, is tell you the symptoms of what might indicate this feeling:</p>
<p>People who are warm and inviting cause alarms in my head to go off, and I push them away.</p>
<p>I expect everyone to be forthright and honest, and am always disappointed: my standards are so high no one can possibly meet them, and I am highly critical of everyone who gives up and/or is selfish in a relationship.</p>
<p>I never believe people I want to be close to will bother being vested in me, so I don&#8217;t bother to try.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m a loner!&#8221; I say too often, as if it were something to be proud of.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t join things or participate in things:  I belittle such social activities as trite, superficial, and a waste of time.</p>
<p>When others around me are forming relationships, I count the days until its demise.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe anything real lasts anything longer than a blink of an eye.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t take down phone numbers.  I don&#8217;t call.  I don&#8217;t visit anyone.  It seems like a waste of time and effort.</p>
<p>I believe everyone, friends, especially, will eventually **** on me.</p>
<p>I always keep my emotions under control.  I disdain those that don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>How does this all add up? How does this feel? It feels like I am in a fight, and I&#8217;m always prepared for the worst. If I let down my guard, then something really horrible could happen.</p>
<p>I guess that something is abandonment.</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I&#8217;m not totally socially inept &#8211; people like me, some think I&#8217;m charming, some admire me, many respect me, some even love me. But there is always this inaccessible part of me that I will always keep remote and protect. And if I let anyone go there, I feel I will die.</p>
<p>Again.</p></div>
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Go TRACK!!!

Despite a few places where there&#8217;s been a heavy hand on my story&#8230;I just really really really appreciate all SBS has done for my case, and for exposing some of the serious problems regarding the control of records.  They were amazing to me, did an amazing amount of research, and truly investigated what the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=adoptionsurvivor.wordpress.com&blog=4905896&post=397&subd=adoptionsurvivor&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p>Go TRACK!!!</p>
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<p>Despite a few places where there&#8217;s been a heavy hand on my story&#8230;I just really really really appreciate all SBS has done for my case, and for exposing some of the serious problems regarding the control of records.  They were amazing to me, did an amazing amount of research, and truly investigated what the central issues are concerning adoption law and conflict of interests.</p>
<p>Those core issues are:</p>
<p>* The adoption agencies are the ONLY ones who have access to adoption records &#8211; this excludes even the government.<br />
* Nobody but the government has any power to monitor adoption agency activities.  Their power is limited and they don&#8217;t exercise it.<br />
* KCARE, the new central organization created to assist with identity retrieval, is a private organization with no governmental power, relying only on adoption agency cooperation.  KCARE has no original documents and no access to them.<br />
* Even today, children with living parents&#8217; identities and social histories are fabricated in order to make them available for adoption.  Their original identities are never recorded with the government, and only the adoption agencies hold this information.<br />
* Adoption agencies know their presence replaces social services and feel entitled to funding from the government.  (but they don&#8217;t want government oversight or government access to documents)</p>
<p>Given the above issues, is it any wonder so many adoptees and first parents are unsuccessful finding the truth?</p>
<p>From the bottom of my heart, for me and for ALL ADOPTEES who only seek the most basic information about their identity,  which should be every person&#8217;s unalienable civil right, I thank SBS&#8217;s We Want to Know That director, Kim Ji Eun, and all of her tireless dedicated staff.</p>
<p>Thank you also to TRACK, who brave many slings and arrows asking Korea &#8211; and the world &#8211; to stop looking away.  Only through recognition of the ugly truth and reconciliation through correction, of the causes and mechanisms of its creation, can Korea begin to replace their shame with pride.</p>
<p>Here are my video comments and updates on the documentary:</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I missed my son&#8217;s birthday. For the second year in a row.
What kind of a self-absorbed asshole have I become?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong>I missed my son&#8217;s birthday.</strong> For the second year in a row.</p>
<p>What kind of a self-absorbed asshole have I become?</p>
<p>Something about putting your identity issues on the back burner for over four decades which can not sustainably be denied creates a pressure that, when it does surface, is suddenly the most prominent thing on your screen.  It&#8217;s like that car where your speed is projected onto your window so, though transparent, no matter what you&#8217;re looking at, you must always look through the projection.</p>
<p><em>abandoned &#8211; adopted</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s foremost in every thing and every thought and you can&#8217;t erase it.</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m sorry, David.  I love you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh God, blogging is so painful sometimes.  But this is a fucking real-time document of a life in shambles and picking up the pieces. So here are tears for your camera now, so where are you and why aren&#8217;t you shooting?</p>
<p>You know, it&#8217;s not just me that&#8217;s affected by this, it&#8217;s my children too.  They had to live with a woman who preemptively rejected social interaction, who disdained celebrations, who discounted holidays, who rarely laughed or smiled, who had no joy, and could share nothing of herself with them because she couldn&#8217;t even share it with herself.</p>
<p>They had to live a life always on the move, unstable, as their mom spun her wheels searching in vain for something fulfilling to do/become.  They had to live a life divorced from extended family and normalcy.  They had to explore race and ethnicity on their own because their mother wouldn&#8217;t and couldn&#8217;t help them.  They had to travel from her island to the world and back again every day as they were growing up.</p>
<p>I always swore I&#8217;d never visit upon my children any of the crimes committed against me.  But we create new crimes in that vacuum.  And we all know that as we age we become more infantile.  Yet the person who breaks down does it prematurely.  And my children have had to raise me and take care of me the past two years.</p>
<p><em>The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons</em> the scripture goes&#8230;There is this Korean blood thing, this lineage thing, this heritage thing.  And this han thing, this tragedy thing, this fate thing.  How do you stop this ripple.  How do you stop it.</p>
<p>I must stop it.</p>
<p><em><br />
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		<title>So what if I was&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scene 1:
My father comes into the house, whistling.  His face is beaming and with a hop in his step, he rushes up to me and announces it’s a glorious day for a motorcycle ride, do I want to go?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Scene 1:</span></p>
<p>My father comes into the house, whistling.  His face is beaming and with a hop in his step, he rushes up to me and announces it’s a glorious day for a motorcycle ride, do I want to go?</p>
<p>My mom is concerned and swears that he’d better drive extra cautious, like this time will be diferent.</p>
<p>My father gets the helmets.  Nobody really asked me if I wanted to go, not really.  I really hate going, because I know the only reason he wants me to go is because my little arms will have to  hold onto him, and that gives him a thrill.  A thrill right out in broad daylight, in public, and no one will know.  He yells through the wind to hold on tighter, and I guess I must comply, because despite it being beautiful and freeing on a bike,  it’s pretty scarey being on Hines Drive with it’s curves and all the unpredictable drunken people partying along its edges.  My long hair is a tangled mess.  Taking the helmet off always rips a handful out.</p>
<p>We get home, and he knows I know what his motivation is.</p>
<p>Daddy, I say, looking straight into his eyes, can we go see Annie?  I really want to see Little Orphan Annie in Detroit.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Well, it’s really expensive honey, but we’ll-see-what-we-can-do.</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s right.  You better…or no more motorcycle rides.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Scene 2:</span></p>
<p>My bedroom.</p>
<p>I just-can’t-take-it-anymore.</p>
<p>I don’t know what it is I can’t take, but I have to leave.  I don’t even remember what the upset was, but I have to go.  I have barracaded my door with my bed and my dresser, and my toychest is under the bedroom window, which I have opened and am trying desperately to climb out of.  If I could only grab hold of the lilac bush…</p>
<p>But the dresser and bed are sliding and the door to my bedroom is opening, and just like the door always opens when I don’t want it to, there I am again, dreading what’s next, helpless.   My dad pushes the furniture aside and my mom follows him in and asks me what I am crying about, and I sob because of course I don’t know and I can’t tell her.</p>
<p>I can’t tell her what it is to be manipulated and to manipulate at the age when you should be playing with dolls.  I can’t tell her how it feels to be a living doll.  I can’t tell her I’m afraid of everything and everybody and mostly of breaking her world apart.  I can’t tell her I’m the other woman.  I can’t tell her what it’s like to be an alien in this world.  I can’t tell her because she is color blind and relationship blind and so sad about her life.</p>
<p>My dad moves the furniture back as if nothing happened.  My mom tells me that after I’ve washed my face, dinner will be ready.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Scene 3:</span></p>
<p>On the street corner, in front of my house.</p>
<p>New neighbor and her daughter come over to introduce themselves to my mom.  I am what, ten years old? yet she gushes over me as if I were four years old.  She starts stroking my hair.  It’s so soft and silky and long and black.  She talks slowly to me, to make sure I understand her words amid her squealing with delight.  She just loves almond shaped eyes.  She just always wished she had almond shaped eyes.  I am stiff. I don’t say much in response.  Her daughter Cara is bubbly and vivacious.  She says, “yes, m’am!” like Opie does on the Andy Griffith Show, like she really enjoys sucking up.  My mother is in love.  I don’t say, “yes, m’am!”</p>
<p>My mom gives her a polished tumbled amethyst rock.  Funny, she never gave ME one of her tumbled rocks.  She chastises me, “Why do you have to be like that?  Why can’t you be more like Cara?”  Cara looks like Annie Wharbucks.  I look like I-don’t-know-what.  No, wait.  I look like the Chinese sex bomb in Flower Drum Song.  How the hell can I say, “yes, m’am!” cheerfully?</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Scene 4:</span></p>
<p>So I’m sitting at the park, near the baseball dugout, the one closest to my church, sneaking a cigarette, and my friend asks me about my birth mother.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">“Do you think she was a prostitute or something?”  (I can hear the hope in her voice – they all wished I was the illegitimate daughter of a lady of the night)</p>
<p>I shrug.  “I dunno.”</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">“Do you ever want to meet her?”</p>
<p>“NO.  Why would I want to do that?”  I frown.  “Families suck.  Why would I want a second one?”</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(incredulous) “But aren’t you even <strong>curious</strong>?”</p>
<p>“So what if I was, WHICH I’M NOT.  We couldn’t talk anyway.  Whoever the hell she is, she’s in KOREA.  Like I know how to talk that!  (I didn’t even know what it sounded like)</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(silence…)  “Oh.  I forgot about that.”  (long pause)  “Wow.”  (romantic jealousy emanates from my friend)</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Scene 5:</span></p>
<p>Same dugout, different time.</p>
<p>I’m making out with a boy, also from my church.  It dawns on me that we are having the same conversation as Scene 4, only we’re not speaking the words.  I suddenly feel like I am my mother.  Why do I feel so dirty?</p>
<p>I finally realize it’s not really me he wants to be with, but the idea of my mother.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Scene 6:</span></p>
<p>Small house party, Seattle.  It’s the post grunge, emo era and Michael’s slightly talented artistic friend is playing Dinosaur Jr. adnauseum.  His rich Korean American girlfriend walks in.  She’s slender and perfect and should be a model for L’eggs pantyhose. She name-drops designers, while proudly wearing her alternative long-haired white boyfriend like a street smart badge of honor.  She has it all.  A broken nail is suffering for her.</p>
<p>Later, Michael off-handedly mentions to me how gorgeous she is.  “What about me?”  I jest.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">“Oh, yeah.  You’re made from good Korean peasant stock.”</p>
<p>Of course I am.</p>
<p>I’m just an orphan, probably daughter of a whore.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">After:</span></p>
<p>Somehow, my first mom doesn’t seem quite so vile now.</p>
<p>I’m sure she is/was a good person.</p>
<p>And being made from peasant stock is just fine, thank you.</p>
<p>Can I meet you, please?</p>
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		<title>What is wrong with adoption because you want a family?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Open Question
Ok I get the hole not telling the adopted child they are adopted, I am in favor of not amending OBC (Original birth certificate0, and just getting an adoption certificate, I am have even changed my opinion on closed adoptions, in fav of enforcing open adoption. However i don&#8217;t get why so many of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=adoptionsurvivor.wordpress.com&blog=4905896&post=363&subd=adoptionsurvivor&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p>Ok I get the hole not telling the adopted child they are adopted, I am in favor of not amending OBC (Original birth certificate0, and just getting an adoption certificate, I am have even changed my opinion on closed adoptions, in fav of enforcing open adoption. However i don&#8217;t get why so many of you say it is selfish to adopt. People don&#8217;t give birth thinking about the kids needs. They have kids because they want kids. Some people can&#8217;t so they adopt. .</p>
<h4>Answer</h4>
<p>&#8220;People don&#8217;t give birth thinking about the kids needs.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;d beg to differ with you here.  By nine months gestation, a mother is thinking a lot about the kids&#8217; needs.</p>
<p>&#8220;They have kids because they want kids.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;d beg to differ again. Many kids are accidents. By nine months gestation, they are wanted. It is outside forces and circumstances which can sometimes make this want a conflict.</p>
<p>&#8220;Some people can&#8217;t so they adopt.&#8221;<br />
Agreed.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why everyone can&#8217;t admit that wanting children is selfish?  What&#8217;s wrong with that?  Nothing, in my book.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong is when that selfish want GROWS so large it is to the exclusion of reason. When the ripples it causes that effect others and even the child are of no consequence. When self-reflection and honesty to the child are abandoned to justify this lack of responsibility. When social and personal ethics are set aside for the ultimate goal.</p>
<p>Being selfish is okay. Being selfish without regard to others is not okay. Being selfish and calling it a selfless act is repugnant. The inability to recognize the difference indicates a level of maturity most parents should be above.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not being selfish which is the indictment. The indictment is for predatory practices, blind ambitions, narcissistic tendencies, and anything that is BEYOND responsible selfishness.</p>
<p>Children deserve not only basics and opportunities and love, but they also deserve to be considered and cared for by balanced, mature, emotionally responsible people.</p>
<p>btw, thank you for taking the time to recognize the child&#8217;s civil rights.  good job, indeed!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A while back, just prior to being banned from an adoption abuse website for daring to confront a particularly Virulent Adoptive Parent who disrespected the website, I had brought up the topic of Stockholm Syndrome. The VAP took great offense to this.
According to the above wikipedia link:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>A while back, just prior to being banned from an adoption abuse website for daring to confront a particularly Virulent Adoptive Parent who disrespected the website, I had brought up the topic of <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome">Stockholm Syndrome</a>.</em> The VAP took great offense to this.</p>
<p>According to the above wikipedia link:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Stockholm syndrome</strong> is a psychological response sometimes seen in abducted hostages, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I was comparing the act of adoption to the act of abduction, as the editors of <a href="http://www.transracialabductees.org/index.html">Transracial Abductees</a> had done previously, only adding my own spin on the relationships that form with our adoptive parents.</p>
<p>Also, cited in the wikipedia entry:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the psychoanalytic view of the syndrome, the tendency might well be the result of employing the strategy evolved by newborn babies to form an emotional attachment to the nearest powerful adult in order to maximize the probability that this adult will enable — at the very least — the survival of the child, if not also prove to be a good parental figure. This syndrome is considered a prime example for the defense mechanism of identification</p></blockquote>
<p>The VAP didn&#8217;t like this at all.  He didn&#8217;t want to recognize that his transracial internationally adopted children didn&#8217;t come to America of their own free will.  He didn&#8217;t want to recognize that they had no recourse but to get along with these benevolent people providing so much attention and basic needs, because they were totally dependent upon them.  He didn&#8217;t want to recognize his power in that situation or the child&#8217;s helplessness.</p>
<p>Okay &#8211; so adoption&#8217;s intent is not to abuse or exploit in most cases.  But isn&#8217;t adoption a benevolent form of abduction?  Isn&#8217;t taking someone anyplace against their will abduction?  And in the case of adoption, isn&#8217;t Stockholm Syndrome what adoptive parents are hoping for?</p>
<p>I bring this all up again due to a really amazing conversation I had with my daughter last week, as she asked about my relationship to my mother, and my siblings (her biological children) relationship with her.</p>
<p>I described my older sister feeling hurt that my mother did not communicate, and my oldest brother feeling resentment for being ignored by her, and my next older brother getting angry because we sometimes had cereal for dinner instead of the kind of meals he expected of a housewife to earn her keep.  I described my sadness for her, for having such self-centered children, for the tedium of her days, for her frustrated fantasy life, her sense of worthlessness, and her unsatisfying roles and the lack of respect she received.  I sensed her loneliness and hopelessness.  I wanted to make everything better for her, but could do nothing but watch her retreat into herself.</p>
<p>My daughter, amazed, wondered how it was that I, the adopted daughter, the transracial international foreign born daughter, was the only one who seemed to have empathy for this woman.</p>
<p>I thought about empathy.  I thought about how helpless people can relate to helpless people.  I think I recognized my situation, though perpetrated by her, as a reflection of her own situation&#8230;</p>
<p>Enter Stockholm Syndrome.</p>
<p>Witness Natacha Kampusch, the Austrian girl who was abducted and held captive for eight years in a basement, by a socially inept man named Wolfgang Priklopil.</p>
<blockquote><p>Kampusch has sympathized with her captor.  She said &#8220;I feel more and more sorry for him &#8211; he&#8217;s a poor soul&#8221;, in spite of having been held captive for eight years by him,<sup class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natasha_Kampusch#cite_note-25"><span> </span></a></sup>and according to police she lit a candle for him at the morgue.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ms. Kampusch was labeled as having Stockholm Syndrome, which she denied.  Later, Austrians were shocked when it was revealed that she carried a photograph of Priklopil&#8217;s coffin in her wallet.</p>
<p>For me, that was not shocking at all.  Eight years she lived under that man.  Not only did he tear her away from her less than ideal family, occassionally beat her, deprive her of liberty, and probably molest her, but he also showed her tenderness, brought her gifts, and tried to make her captivity more comfortable.  She was the most important human being in his life.  And everything she could hope for had to be through him.  Eight years you get to know someone really well.  You start to understand what makes them tick, what brought them to such desperate acts.  You begin to feel for them.  They become dear to you.</p>
<p>Yes, I am projecting here.  This is my adoptive mother I feel for.  And I weep when I think of the desperation that brought my adoption into being.  And I weep when I read of her letters to Holt, and how important my capture was to her.  And I weep when I think of all those years seeing that it didn&#8217;t fix anything for her.  And to my mind, I am a victim of Stockholm Syndrome.  And I am okay with that.  Just like Natasha&#8217;s treasured photo of a coffin, we can&#8217;t condemn her or tell her that her feelings for him, whatever they were, weren&#8217;t real.  My adoption was bad, a crime really.  My relationship with my parents strained.  But more than anyone, I saw her for what she was.  I think I was the only one who really knew her.</p>
<p>I hate that I was captured.  I hate adoption.  This is no way to start a relationship.</p>
<p>But I loved my captor.   We&#8217;re all we had.</p>
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		<title>New Year / New Life</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 03:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best Wishes for a great new year and years to come!
I&#8217;m sitting in my almost empty fragrantly cedar cabin in Washington
State, after having given away a lifetime of possessions, my goods
reduced to two suitcases full of stupid clothes I would rather replace
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Best Wishes for a great new year and years to come!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sitting in my almost empty fragrantly cedar cabin in Washington<br />
State, after having given away a lifetime of possessions, my goods<br />
reduced to two suitcases full of stupid clothes I would rather replace<br />
in Korea if I had the cash, and an instrument I can&#8217;t yet play. Last<br />
day before I mop the floors, turn in my key, and spend three weeks at<br />
my daughters prior to boarding the plane for TESOL training in<br />
Thailand. After the training, I&#8217;ll spend a week in Seoul at Koroot,<br />
doing the requisite orphanage tour, traveling to the nearby mountain<br />
town of Wonju as personal identity sleuth, and then on to my new<br />
teaching position in Anyang.</p>
<p>As I sit here avoiding cleaning the oven and contemplating this life,<br />
it&#8217;s quite stirring to think about the future and the past and the<br />
epic in between. Almost 3 years of mystery followed by 42 years of<br />
what doesn&#8217;t kill you makes you stronger, followed by starting over<br />
halfway around the world in a place I know nothing about yet feel I<br />
know on a cellular level, is almost too incredible for me to<br />
comprehend. Do you ever think that way? Do you ever think about how<br />
unbelievable and incredible this odyssey is we&#8217;ve been sent on?</p>
<p>Transracial, transcultural, intercountry adoption feels like a brief<br />
interruption of an inviolable destiny. I blinked and I have a head<br />
full of gray hair, but I feel somehow like I am a 3 years young old<br />
soul, picking up where I left off.</p>
<p>In this generous moment, I want to thank Holt for f&#8217;g up my life so<br />
badly. It&#8217;s made this homecoming all the more sweet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just grinning ear to ear and bursting with love love love love<br />
love for all of you and wanting to wish you half of what I feel right now.</p>
<p>Holt orphan 4708</p>
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		<title>Dear Expectant Parent</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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Excerpt below:
Excerpts from the two page (yup, that’s it) guide to taking care of your new adopted child from Korea, circa 1966.  (from my own personal files) Bold added by me for highlighting.  Portions omitted are about plane arrangements, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=adoptionsurvivor.wordpress.com&blog=4905896&post=346&subd=adoptionsurvivor&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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</a></p>
<p>Excerpt below:</p>
<p>Excerpts from the two page (yup, that’s it) guide to taking care of your new adopted child from Korea, circa 1966.  (from my own personal files) Bold added by me for highlighting.  Portions omitted are about plane arrangements, clothing to send, documents which will arrive, medical exams and immigration.  Sarcastic comments are fully mine.</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Expectant Parents:</p>
<p>This letter is to prepare you for your child’s arrival.  First of all, <strong>be sure you have all the fees paid</strong>…We must have this money before your child comes.</p>
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		<title>What is this need to KNOW WHERE YOU CAME FROM?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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What is that, especially after you were brought into and loved by a afmily?
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<p>Question</p>
<blockquote>
<div>What is that, especially after you were brought into and loved by a afmily?</p>
<p>It seems rather selfish to me. It also seems like the effort to have a ready excuse for what doesn&#8217;t go the way that you want it.</p>
<p>I am trying to understand.</p></div>
</blockquote>
<div>Answer</div>
<blockquote>
<div>I&#8217;ll take a stab at it, but it&#8217;s nearly impossible to describe because you have to live it to really understand.</p>
<p>Say you had amnesia. You wake up and you are in strange surroundings with new people, and you can&#8217;t remember your name or where you came from or anything about your life prior to waking up that day. You get a new name, but you know you were called something else before. You eat food, but you know it is different than everything you ate before. You are cared for, but you know they are not who cared for you before. What a difference one day makes. How can you not remember? You know there are so many things about yourself, but they are all gone and you don&#8217;t know who you are anymore. You&#8217;re too in shock to know what to do.</p>
<p>This day goes on to the next and the next and you gradually become familiar with this new life. But you are confronted with questions that cause sheer chaos inside you. Draw your family tree. Chaos. How were you born. Chaos. Does your mother have the same color eyes. Chaos. Do your siblings look like you. Chaos. Form field &#8211; what ethnicity are you. Chaos. Medical history. Chaos. All you know is you had an identity once and it&#8217;s gone now. People keep asking you these things. You look at other families and they all look alike. You have a child and it looks up at you, half your face. You look up like your child and see &#8211; nothing but chaos. You look in the mirror and see &#8211; a stranger &#8211; who looks nothing like anyone else.</p>
<p>Yes yes yes we can and must deal with this. But in my case almost three years got erased. Three years of culture and language is no small thing. It is not just a trivial thing to lose three years. Those were my formative years. They shaped me on a profound level. But all acess to anything that can tell me anything about the beginning of my story, any clue to alleviate that unworldly feeling like you are an alien dropped out of the sky, born at age three, is denied me. To know see how I will age. Denied. To know even one sentence to cover the hole that is three years. Denied. To have even one image to confirm that I am not an alien. Denied.</p>
<p>We can get by all right. We just must. But this amnesia induced by others, our original identities stolen is no excuse we make up to blame others out of selfishness. It&#8217;s a very very real loss. That nobody else has to confront except adoptees and amnesiacs. And it is haunting. And heartrenching. And frustrating.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t trivialize this.  You can&#8217;t begin to conceive what this is like.</p></div>
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		<title>Adoptees: if you could have picked your own adoptive parents, would you have chose the ones you have?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, not being adopted is not an option.
How would the AP&#8217;s you were to be raised by be different, if you&#8217;d had the chance to choose them?
Answer
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>No, not being adopted is not an option.</p>
<p>How would the AP&#8217;s you were to be raised by be different, if you&#8217;d had the chance to choose them?</p>
<h4><strong>Answer</strong></h4>
<p>I would have liked to have established a RELATIONSHIP with them FIRST, so I could see what their true colors were and make my decision based upon that. Trust should be earned. Relationships should be built. Even children deserve that.</p>
<p>The problem with adoption is you become an instant family. Back in the day, this was sight un-seen. They at least got a photograph. I didn&#8217;t get any. I didn&#8217;t know them from Adam, but I had to live with them. Even today, it is typically just a visit or two. I not only had zero choice, but I had zero opportunity to bond except after I had already been totally uprooted and totally dependent upon them for &#8211; EVERYTHING. I was stranded with strangers, powerless. I also couldn&#8217;t speak English so I couldn&#8217;t even communicate my fears, reservations, or needs. I also had no way to leave a bad situation. I didn&#8217;t even get an interpreter&#8230; I can&#8217;t understand why adoptive parents would want a child under those circumstances, where love is forced because there is no alternative. I wouldn&#8217;t want a parent willing to settle for something that shallow.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t have chosen the parents I got. They provided well, but they failed not only me but also their own biological children in every other way &#8211; in all the ways that count. They should have been screened better. And asking me to choose my own adoptive parents isn&#8217;t enough, as I would have also traded in my siblings who didn&#8217;t appreciate the fuss and disruption of my presence, so I had to grow up with them hating and resenting me.</p>
<p>If I could have chosen parents, I would have chosen people who bothered to get to know me first, who liked me for me and not because I filled a need and provided a role for them. In fact, I think someone like a caring big brother or big sister would have been a much better choice than having to go live with a new family, to tell you the truth. The amount of quality bonding time might even have exceeded what I got with my parents.</p>
<p>I would have chosen people who respected and loved children enough to not re-traumatize them and abruptly rip them from their country, their culture, and everyone they could identify with. I would have chosen local people in my own country. Local adoptive parents or the orphanage, surrounded with others like myself &#8211; that is what I would have chosen.</p>
<p>How would my AP&#8217;s be different? My only friend in jr. high school had five sisters, a step brother, a step mother, and her dad. All nine of them lived in a two bedroom cottage and attic space. There was more life and love in that tiny struggling house than could be found in my house times ten. Careful, conservative, proper, respectable people don&#8217;t always make good parents, just because they go to church, can fill out forms, and can balance their budget. Opportunity can go to hell. Without a vibrant, caring, genuine family like my friend had, my opportunities seem like poverty in comparison. My parents of choice wouldn&#8217;t have been so superficially perfect.</p>
<p>Adoption can be just as creepy as an arranged marriage. You can qualify perfect attributes of the perfect people and they can still be perfectly hideous to live with and govern you. You can create a laundry list of what you want in a child, and find you hate them once they are in your care. And there&#8217;s something very creepy about being sought after with no established history and no relationship. Without any test, without any trial relationship, we can&#8217;t even establish whether these humans even LIKE each other. This kind of courtship takes time and proximity. It takes more effort. It is so much more meaningful.</p>
<p>In my world, love comes first and legal recognition comes after &#8211; not the other way around. That&#8217;s the kind of world I want to live in. People who prioritize values like that are the kind of parent I wish I had.</p>
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		<title>the ache of separation</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the most haunting, heart rending song about loss ever written:
 
Dearly Departed by Devotchka
.
Sweetheart
How I miss your heart
Beating next to mine
.
The right words
Were always hard to find
When all our times was fine
When darling you were mine, all mine
.
And I know,
I know you had no choice
But how I miss your voice
Singing right with mine
.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Perhaps the most haunting, heart rending song about loss ever written:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.goear.com/listenwin.php?v=a650702"><span style='text-align:left;display:block;'><p><object type='application/x-shockwave-flash' data='http://adoptionsurvivor.wordpress.com/wp-content/plugins/audio-player/player.swf' width='290' height='24' id='audioplayer1'><param name='movie' value='http://adoptionsurvivor.wordpress.com/wp-content/plugins/audio-player/player.swf' /><param name='FlashVars' value='&amp;bg=0xf8f8f8&amp;leftbg=0xeeeeee&amp;lefticon=0x666666&amp;rightbg=0xcccccc&amp;rightbghover=0x999999&amp;righticon=0x666666&amp;righticonhover=0xffffff&amp;text=0x666666&amp;slider=0x666666&amp;track=0xFFFFFF&amp;border=0x666666&amp;loader=0x9FFFB8&amp;soundFile=http%3A%2F%2F67.228.33.219%2Faudio%2FDearlyDeparted.mp3' /><param name='quality' value='high' /><param name='menu' value='false' /><param name='bgcolor' value='#FFFFFF' /></object></p></span></a> <strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>Dearly Departed</strong> by Devotchka</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Sweetheart</p>
<p>How I miss your heart</p>
<p>Beating next to mine</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>The right words</p>
<p>Were always hard to find</p>
<p>When all our times was fine</p>
<p>When darling you were mine, all mine</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>And I know,</p>
<p>I know you had no choice</p>
<p>But how I miss your voice</p>
<p>Singing right with mine</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Flesh of my flesh</p>
<p>Soul of my soul</p>
<p>Come back home</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>All this darkness,</p>
<p>cannot hurt us</p>
<p>Cause they made you from the light</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Here on purpose,</p>
<p>don&#8217;t be nervous</p>
<p>We will make it through, this night</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Sweetheart</p>
<p>How I miss your heart</p>
<p>Beating next to mine</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Flesh of my flesh</p>
<p>Soul of my soul</p>
<p>Come back home</p>
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		<title>For those who were adopted, when did you start understanding?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[About how old were you when you started to understand what &#8220;being adopted&#8221; means? What questions did you ask? What questions did you want to ask, but didn&#8217;t? What answers did your parents give you? Were the answers helpful? What, if anything, could have been done or said to help your understanding?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><div class="content">About how old were you when you started to understand what &#8220;being adopted&#8221; means? What questions did you ask? What questions did you want to ask, but didn&#8217;t? What answers did your parents give you? Were the answers helpful? What, if anything, could have been done or said to help your understanding?</p>
<p>My daughter has always known she was adopted. She knows just about everything we know except for issues that she&#8217;s still too young for. She&#8217;s going to be 10 soon.</p>
<p>We have an open adoption with visits, calls, e-mails, etc. She rarely asks me any questions except for &#8220;why don&#8217;t I look like my sisters and brother?&#8221; and &#8220;why don&#8217;t they live with us?&#8221; We always tell her the truth. When I ask her if there&#8217;s anything else she wants to know, I usually get that deer in a headlight look. I know it&#8217;s coming. I know she&#8217;s going to ask more questions some day. I want to be prepared.</p></div>
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<li><abbr title="09">3 weeks ago</abbr></li>
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<p class="additional-date"><abbr title="10">3 weeks ago</abbr></p>
<div class="additional-details">ETA:  Thank you all.  You&#8217;ve given me more to think about.</div>
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<h4><span>Best Answer</span> &#8211; Chosen by Asker</h4>
<div class="content">Adoption has never been something I was comfortable talking about growing up. I dismissed it as an issue and pushed it under a rug. I just wanted to live my life and try and be happy.</p>
<p>I threw myself into my interests &#8211; vocational, recreational, and relational with great fervor and passion. On the surface I appeared vibrant and successful. Yet nothing ever lasted. From childhood to present day, I&#8217;ve always been a little remote or a little too intense or a little too vested or a little too intimate.</p>
<p>At 43, after a failed relationship, I crashed. I crawled into a fetal position for two months surveying all my relationship disappointments and nearly didn&#8217;t make it to my 44th birthday. Until one day the obvious hit me &#8211; that I had been living my entire life avoiding and fearing abandonment. And because avoidance had been my main focus, I was ill-equipped to handle the normal ebbs and flows of relationships most people learn to deal with. That the rough start of abandonment and adoption truly was profound. That it shaped my whole life. And confronting that wound and dealing with it in a more productive way will shape the last half of my life as well.</p>
<p>And one of the main reasons for this handicap was because my parents gained more from me than I gained from them. Their self interest was, in effect, abandoning me. This is something adoptive parents don&#8217;t want to recognize. When the parent/child relationship is more about the joys and satisfaction derived from children than it is about truly what is important to the child, then who is there for the child and the child&#8217;s emotional needs?</p>
<p>I think childhood is not a time when children can express how they feel, or communicate their deep loss or grief or pain. I don&#8217;t think they should be expected to. Nor do I think they will necessarily share any recognition they do have with their second parents. Because you contributed to the process that caused them pain, even if your intentions were honorable. And they care about not hurting you. It&#8217;s our own private thing we have to deal with, that the child will never trust the parents to relate to. Because unless you&#8217;ve been abandoned and adopted you just can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The only thing you as parents can do is put them first. Really care about them. Always be supportive. And never, ever, place conditions on your affections or put your own needs ahead of theirs. You need to be a rock of gibraltar, a constant and abiding source. They need to trust that you will always be there for them and never abandon them &#8211; in word, deed, attitude, in any way, shape, or form. Your loving words are not enough &#8211; they need to see/feel/know without a shadow of a doubt that they can be totally secure. The more insecure you show you are, the more insecure your child will be&#8230;</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a matter of having talks about adoption. In fact, that&#8217;s invasive, self-interested, a sign of parental insecurity, and a great way to further alienate yourself from your kids. It&#8217;s a matter of being a genuine and complete loving parent. And if your child wants to talk about it when she&#8217;s ready, know that all she wants is honest answers. NOT happy adoption rhetoric. HONEST self probing answers.</p>
<p>Again, the theme I keep going back to is this: we don&#8217;t need adoptive parents. We need PARENTS. Relaxed. Loving. Secure. Steadfast. Comforting. PARENTS.</p>
<p>Hope I&#8217;ve been of help.</p></div>
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<dd class="desc">Every single answer gave me a new perspective, so my thanks go to all.<br />
AlmostHuman, your theme of children needing genuine and loving PARENTS really hit a chord with me. Thanks also for sharing what you learned about yourself during your journey.</dd>
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		<title>remembering in korean</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[funny how this small thing made me cry and feel joy at the same time.
i sent the following email to loved ones, as if i had graduated or something:  i guess i had.
i just had a memory from my childhood in korean.  how bizarre is that?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>funny how this small thing made me cry and feel joy at the same time.</p>
<p>i sent the following email to loved ones, as if i had graduated or something:  i guess i had.</p>
<blockquote><p>i <strong>just had a memory</strong> from my childhood <strong><em>in korean</em></strong>.  how bizarre is that?<br />
i remember saying this to my new parents. <em></em></p>
<p><em>i peu da</em></p>
<p><em></em>looked it up and found this:<em><br />
yeh ppeu da</em><br />
예쁘다</p>
<p>it means <em>pretty</em></p>
<p>i think it must have been RIGHT AFTER I ARRIVED.  it&#8217;s very fuzzy, but i think it is real.  it was about the christmas tree&#8230;i kept saying it over and over again.</p>
<p>silly to flood your in-boxes with something so small, i know.  i was just excited to have the word come to me <strong><em>in korean</em></strong> out of nowhere.  i was watching a kdrama and the guy told the girl she was beautiful, and suddenly <em>i peu da</em> popped into my head!  and then the christmas ornaments.  i haven&#8217;t studied it.  i haven&#8217;t heard it.  <span style="text-decoration:underline;">i just KNEW</span> it was a synonym.  so i looked up <em>pretty</em> and <em>korean</em> on google and the word was there! and then i typed <em>pretty</em> and <em>beautiful</em> in the free translation on-line, and sure enough, it was there&#8230;</p>
<p>now, if i could only remember two weeks earlier about my life at the orphanage&#8230;or nine months earlier when i was with my family&#8230;<br />
i hope i have more of these, but i doubt it.</p></blockquote>
<p>this is the first time I can recall where my first thought was a word in a foreign language, and not only that but inherently knowing what it meant.  i was about ten weeks shy of 3 years old when i arrived at my american home, which was four days before christmas.</p>
<p>he,he,he, i guess the forty hours I thought I&#8217;d wasted watching korean dramas wasn&#8217;t a waste afterall!</p>
<p><strong>ADDED:</strong></p>
<p>Relaying my joy over this reclaimed word on an adoption support board, one of the adoptees mentioned that my experience is not unlike Helen Keller&#8217;s.</p>
<p>from <a href="http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_keller.hcsp#P31_3846">RNIB;  supporting blind and partially sighted people</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Then, after a month of Anne’s teaching, what the people of the time called a “miracle” occurred.</p>
<p>Helen had until now not yet fully understood the meaning of words. When Anne led her to the water pump on 5 April 1887, all that was about to change.</p>
<p>As Anne pumped the water over Helen’s hand , Anne spelled out the word water in the girl’s free hand. Something about this explained the meaning of words within Helen, and Anne could immediately see in her face that she finally understood.</p>
<p>Helen later recounted the incident:</p>
<p>“We walked down the path to the well-house, attracted by the fragrance of the honey-suckle with which it was covered. Someone was drawing water and my teacher placed my hand under the spout. As the cool stream gushed over one hand she spelled into the other the word water, first slowly, then rapidly. I stood still, my whole attention fixed upon the motions of her fingers. <strong>Suddenly I felt a misty consciousness as of something forgotten, a thrill of returning thought, and somehow the mystery of language was revealed to me</strong>.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Assimilation has been like having my sight taken away.  But it appears those early connections live on and can never be obliterated once formed.</p>
<p>We adoptees are not blank slates.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a cold March day in 1966, two little girls began a journey which would change their lives forever.  That day was the day they were transferred to an orphanage to begin their life as orphans, to be adopted and sent away to foreign lands with foreign people.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>On a cold March day in 1966, two little girls began a journey which would change their lives forever.  That day was the day they were transferred to an orphanage to begin their life as orphans, to be adopted and sent away to foreign lands with foreign people.</p>
<p>You and I were together that day.  You and I were together the next four days and possibly the next nine months.  Were we together prior to that day?  Only meeting can rule out the remote possibility of relations undocumented.</p>
<p>You are the only living person I know who has anything to do with my past and I would at the very least like to contact you, however you feel comfortable.  We are sisters in solidarity, and I would be interested in hearing how you&#8217;ve fared in life.</p>
<p>fondest regards,</p>
<p>Suki</p>
<p>BACKGROUND</p>
<p>My earliest document atypically referred to two people at one time:</p>
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<li>two little girls</li>
<li>both the same age</li>
<li>both given &#8220;provisional&#8221; names</li>
<li>both abandoned on the same day</li>
<li>both sent onward together</li>
<li>both sent to Holt and given consecutive Holt orphan numbers</li>
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<p>My struggles to obtain this document, and the struggles to be allowed to passively contact this girl, whom Holt had identifying information for, was herculean.  Finally, they relented.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong></p>
<p>Never letting up reminding/prodding Holt to not let up and asking for updates as to the search for girl4709, Holt called and said they have located her.  It is now up to her.</p>
<p>If this is true (or just a ploy to get me to stop harassing them) then I feel sorry for girl 4709.  But then again, it was not I that orphaned her nor I that sent her to foreign lands and foreign people for adoption, so I hope she harbors no resentment towards me for upsetting whatever calm she has in her life.  Hopefully, like me, the knowing of the truth has more value than some temporary emotional turbulance.</p>
<p>I recall how I felt the morning my Korean speaking friend gave me a rough translation of my earliest document from Wonju city hall.  At first I was just numb.  A kind of &#8220;well don&#8217;t that beat all&#8221; kind of disbelief, which lingered throughout the day.  It kind of felt like the feelings I had harbored about adoption in general all my life &#8211; pushing it aside as a non-issue in hopes its nagging implications would just go away &#8211; only it was like times ten.  And then I was driving on the long commute home when it hit me.</p>
<p>When I first asked for my adoption records, my daughter asked me if I would search for my birth mother.  I had no interest in upsetting the life she had established and I told her no.  When my daughter mentioned that I might have siblings as well, I told her I hadn&#8217;t thought about it before, but probably I wouldn&#8217;t bother.  I was shocked that I had NEVER EVEN CONSIDERED this as a possibility.  (In retrospect, I can&#8217;t believe I had never entertained this possibility &#8211; but it is true.  The depths of my own denial and self preservation amaze me)</p>
<p>On the long commute home, I recalled my daughter bringing up siblings and my cool reaction.  And then I thought about the other girl from Wonju.  And what if&#8217;d.  What if she was my sister?  What is we were even twins?  What if I was not only separated from my parents due to poor economics (the most likely scenario, since I was already two years old) but also separated from my sister?  from my twin???  Can I even begin to imagine what kind of pain that would have caused a parent?  Can I even begin to imagine what the severing of twin bonds can do to a person?  Possibly myself?  What if my almost hostile attitude about birth family search has always been so negative because maybe my loss was too great to deal with?  It was not just a loss of an incubator.  It was the loss of someone who cared for me well (I was a fat, secure, well-adjusted child upon arriving for adoption) and thus presumably well loved.  The loss of a sibling on top of that was unimaginable. The loss of a twin on top of that was unfathomable.</p>
<p>I started to sob in the car.  Full body racking sobs.  I couldn&#8217;t tell the difference between the rain outside and the rain inside.  I could barely drive home.  Whereupon I stayed immobilized in the car for an hour, sobbing.  Sobbing like I&#8217;d never sobbed in my entire life.  Primal sobbing.</p>
<p>What had adoption done to me?  How could it take over forty years for me to finally acknowledge and cry about my loss?  I still can&#8217;t wrap my head around the profound consequences of the redistribution of children.   It puts an end to my words and makes me silent.</p>
<p>And so I wait to hear from girl4709.  I wait for her to catch up.  To have her primal cry in her car.  To have that healing cry.</p>
<p>We might not be/probably aren&#8217;t sisters.  But there is that small possibility we are, so that possibility must be exhausted.  And either way, that jolt to my adoption psyche helped me realize how essential the fundamental facts of our origins are, how important their meaning is.  Whether it is girl 4709 or not, while there is still time to piece together this picture, I must at least try.</p>
<p>I am glad my sleep got disturbed.  I am glad to be awake.</p>
<p>I hope girl4709 will one day feel the same way.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a response I posted on an ethical adoption site.  I have edited portions of it referring to the particular thread to make it more universal.
It is a snapshot of my current evolving view on international adoption.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>This was a response I posted on an ethical adoption site.  I have edited portions of it referring to the particular thread to make it more universal.</p>
<p>It is a snapshot of my current evolving view on international adoption.</p>
<blockquote><p>As a person who can understand WHY people want to adopt, yet as a person who wants all international adoption to END, I’ve found this thread to be very interesting.</p>
<p>It’s interesting because this is a website devoted to integrity and ethics in adoption, and yet it still reflects all the divisiveness of the adoption issues at large. It’s also always interesting to me when children who were once so coveted and sought out grow up to be a source of discomfort and conflict.</p>
<p>Like most of the parents here, my views about adoption began to turn upside down only as I learned more about how it was conducted and as I explored the motivations behind its genesis. It’s not a pretty picture beneath its top layer. The deeper I explored, the more outraged I became. Is this <em>angry adoptee</em> syndrome a popular phenomenon? No. It does not reflect the majority of adoptions (though I do believe time brings us all closer to these revelations). I believe it is a parallel path to those who are willing to ascribe to <em>ethical adoptions,</em> which also do not represent the majority of adoptive parents. Both positions are the result of a deeper exploration and a belief in social justice and personal responsibility. These positions are not set, but are a journey, as we all are seeking the truth.</p>
<p>There is no room for (or value in) blame or assumptions or pre-judging. Especially when what’s done is done. However, more fundamental to all adoptions are the issues of desire, entitlement and all the dark alleys that can lead people down. As a broad generalization, the distinctions between ethical adoptions and the status quo often stop here.</p>
<p>For me, as an idealist who wants to promote the idea of village (a more expanded definition of family in a social context) and the exploration of what a genuine parent is, I don’t feel adoptions are a necessary legal construct. However, as a pragmatist, I feel I must address adoption on two fronts: Support for social services in source countries to eliminate the need for adoptions, and support for the children who have already been adopted. By support for social service in source countries, I believe most adoptions are unnecessary and very correctable if we threw as much energy into caring for one another as we throw energy into rescuing children of the aftermath of not caring for one another. By support for the children who have already been adopted, I mean helping children by helping their adoptive parents provide a more meaningful parent/child relationship. What’s done is done and I want to spare other adopted children the suffering us older adoptees had to endure at the hands of our well meaning (by their estimation) parents.</p>
<p>At the essential core of both fronts is the surgery that is executed for adoption to take place, and the participation of institutions or individuals in that wound. What is frustrating is that the majority of potential and already adoptive parents reject acknowledging their participation in that reality. Because these issues are so fundamental to the relationship of adopted child and parent, the denial of or unwillingness to admit their role in this surgery can lead to an unbridgeable gap of mistrust, a gap that young children are unable to verbalize. The ends do not always justify the means. If the means were ugly, but only the beauty is promoted, then children are taught that their parents are hypocrites that can’t be trusted to be honest. This lack of trust prevents adoptee relationships with their adoptive parents from fulfilling its potential for depth and meaning.</p>
<p>And the means does not only include adoption agencies and countries. It starts with each person, and what set them on the road to adoption in the first place. Too often progressive adoptive parents wear the mantel of truth yet still exhibit their underlying entitlement. I will put forth that adult adoptees have hyper awareness of this when it occurs. There doesn’t seem to be any good way to point out when entitlement is showing without appearing accusatory.</p>
<p>When you hear the “anger” or frustration in the adoptee voice, it is because we are always trying to have a conversation with people closed to any real discourse when it does not validate what they have put so much energy into building. So please be understanding and patient when you deal with adoptees &#8211; the frustration and isolation of voicing an unpopular opinion and repeatedly talking to deaf ears can make our voices shrill.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I think that it does not do our cause any good when we try and hammer home our viewpoints, however well argued. This is because there are too many iterations of the adoption scenario and because the ten arguments we may have do not apply to the 15 reasons people adopt. I understand adoptee frustration over ethical adoption organizations, despite being for integrity and ethics, are still advocating adoption, and more radical than that, international adoption. Yet &#8211; I think our energies can be spent better eliciting allies amongst them. We don’t necessarily need 100% support. An inroad is an inroad. A little enlightenment is still an improvement and progressive. We need thoughtful parents, like the ones who come here, to help us re-frame the dialog with the rest of the adopting world. We can not do this alone. We need to recognize those that are on this path are heading somewhere positive, just as they need to recognize that our perspectives are valuable, even if they hurt.</p>
<p>Me, I’m a pragmatist.</p>
<p>I see adoption as a great experiment gone horribly awry. I feel we can all learn from each other and all work together to stop the mistakes of the past from continuing to be perpetuated.  <strong>It is my sincerest hope that for every adoption that goes through, x+ families are assisted to stay together. We should ALL work towards the elimination of the need <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">for adoption</span> </strong><strong>to abandon children.</strong> Hopefully we can all agree that the need f<span style="text-decoration:line-through;">or adoption</span> to abandon children is messed up, that there are things we can work together to eliminate this need, and that reform is a beautiful thing.</p>
<p><strong>Imagine all the progress we could make if each adopting parent who claims they are adopting to save children, would concurrently support programs to save families</strong>&#8230;now that would be an adoptive parent I could believe in and endorse.</p>
<p>I would hope all of you can join me in open forum, enlightening popular culture as to the complexities and consequences of adoption. I would hope everyone can take what you’ve learned and broadcast it OUT to those that know little about adoption and do what we can to minimize the damage that can happen when people jump into something with simple and reckless abandon. I commend you all for pausing to think and choosing this path. Now that you’re on this path, I hope you don’t stop &#8211; but continue on &#8211; with me &#8211; working for social justice and &#8211; with yourselves &#8211; doing the hard self analysis.</p>
<p>For the kids</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Do all adoptees feel this way?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Here is a question that was closed before I got a chance to answer.  (the run-on paragraph makes for hard reading, but bear with it)</p>
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<div class="content">A very common theme I see here with adoptees are the feelings of loss, betrayal, feeling unwanted, different and feeling like they didn&#8217;t &#8220;belong&#8221; to their adoptive families, all of which are justified. I have had these feelings too. I know there are a lot of people with strong opinions here, but please consider the fact that I am an adoptee also. What I would like to know if there are any adoptees that consider their adoption to have been a positive thing? Obviously adoption was a life changing event, whether as an infant and unable to remember your adoption or as an older child, remembering being taken from or surrendered by your family. It seems like a lot of adoptees have lots of negative things to say, almost as if their whole life has been ruined, and but I don&#8217;t think for everybody. When I first started asking about adoption on Y!A, I didn&#8217;t disclose the fact that I was an adoptee, I came here seeking information on how to adopt. I came under some really heavy criticism from people not knowing my background, assuming that I was just another infertile parasite looking for someone&#8217;s baby to take without regard to the child&#8217;s feelings at all. Do all adoptees feel like that&#8217;s what all adoptive parents are like? I was a baby, I don&#8217;t remember anything, so I never experienced the trauma of remembering being separated from my family. My parents have a bio son who I consider to be my brother in every way and I was never ever referred to as an adopted daughter. Now, that isn&#8217;t to say I had a great childhood. It wasn&#8217;t, but not in the way that a lot of adoptees describe their childhood. I had to get therapy for other issues in my early 20s and am coming to terms that I&#8217;ll likely never know my biological family. Are there any adoptees who have no desire to know their bio families? If you are one, are you content with your life as it is and consider your adoptive family to be your only family, period? I thought that my own experience as a child would make me a better adoptive parent, but it seems like that might not be the case. I figure that was the hand I was dealt and it has made me who I am today and though it took a while, I have to say I&#8217;m happy. I&#8217;ve gotten married to a wonderful man and we are looking forward to building our family, conventionally or not. Some of the comments given to people just trying to look into adoption almost make you want to NOT do it. My feelings aren&#8217;t as strong as some others here and if no matter how much empathy I can give an adopted child, if they still are going to feel this way, it makes me wonder if this is the right thing for me to do. I don&#8217;t want my child years from now having all these negative feelings, although I realize that&#8217;s not going to be in my control. All I can do is be the best parent I can be and hope they know that I know what it&#8217;s like. Is there anyone out there who is happy to have been adopted and wouldn&#8217;t want life any other way? For the other adoptees who aren&#8217;t, what is the source of your feelings, other than the obvious, of course? I understand every person is unique as is each family and each situation. I understand the need for reform. What I&#8217;m not always understanding is a lot of the bitterness, perhaps because my situation was different. I really would love to adopt but am no longer feeling as confident about it because of the responses I&#8217;m seeing from other adoptees. Is it possible for an adoptee to be truly happy with their adoptive family?</div>
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<div class="content"><strong>My answer</strong></div>
<div class="content">The crazy thing about adoption &#8211; what those people reading our critiques don&#8217;t understand &#8211; is how we, MORE THAN ANYONE, wanted with all our hearts to make adoption be all that it could be.  I accepted my siblings as siblings.  I thought of my mom as my mom.  I had zero interest in pursuing birth family search, and I toyed with the idea of adoption much of my life.</p>
<p>Pretty astounding from an adoptee who was transracial, intercountry, and sexually abused.  The deep deep level of how much we want things to be as they should knows no bounds.</p>
<p>To me, adoption is a process.  One that had I further complicated with adopting, I might have forever frustrated reaching an understanding of what adoption means:  personally, socially, and politically.  And recently, I have even begun to recognize adoption as a feminist issue.</p>
<p>I am glad that I did not participate in perpetuating what was done to me.  I am glad that I am no longer fatalistic about the hand I was dealt with.  I am glad to finally be questioning what adoption really is.</p>
<p>It revealed itself when I had children of my own.  It revealed more of itself when my parents passed away.  It reveals itself in new color and depth as I begin something I had no desire to  ever do &#8211; search for my birth family.   It seems to have waited until my hair turned gray; It seems to have taken that long to process and acknowledge.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m finding is that adoption is a misguided solution.  It treats the symptoms of society&#8217;s problems without addressing the root causes: The thinking that by distributing orphans amongst the many who want children, the problems will be cleaned up does not work.  The problems will continue to come.  The orphanages will just be filled with new results of the same old problems, because the problems are systemic and cultural.   But people who want babies aren&#8217;t concerned with fixing the system or with the next generation of orphans.  This myopic vision, so attractive in its personal rewards, contributes to the neglect of fixing the system, because as long as people are there to relieve the system of its excess pressure, they negate the need for fixing anything.  This is why I am against saving children through adoption.  Instead of catching one falling child of many, I would rather those that want to save children work together on a safety net for all the children.  The focus should be on eliminating the need for orphanages, while at the same time reforming the system by improving social services to women and families, and creating an exit strategy to truly empty the orphanages.</p>
<p>Your inquiry shows me that you, too, are on this process.  That you&#8217;re starting to reflect on the more profound aspects of what a parent and family really is, and hopefully your path will lead to a further exploration of the larger social impacts of adoption.</p>
<p>Today I am glad I did not pursue adoption.  Just like I try to not to purchase items made in sweatshops.  I realize not all of the workers are exploited.  I realize my boycott does not directly improve anyone&#8217;s life and that my boycott could mean loss of jobs for a few.  But it sends a clear message that exploitation is unacceptable and that markets will disappear if unethical practices are allowed to proliferate unchecked.  Public awareness and pressure successfully causes systems to adjust.  For example, Walmart will not suffer another Kathy Lee scandal.  Walmart has just announced it will only purchase products from green factories.   I would rather do without the enjoyment of certain items I want, than to know I had a hand in the viability of a system that perpetuates exploitation.  So-called orphans are the by-product of systems which prey on the disenfranchised and cultures which don&#8217;t support and disrespect women.  By providing help to families in crisis, we eliminate the need for orphanages.  By increasing opportunities and social services to women, we increase their chance to succeed &#8211; and when women are successful, unwanted pregnancies and relinquishment are reduced.  Changing systems is slow and painful work, but I would rather prevent tragedies than clean up the aftermath.</p>
<p>I think it is an over simplification to categorize adoptees as happy or bitter, and it is also an over simplification to correlate that with adoptive family relations.  One can hate adoption and love or hate ones adoptive parents.  I am not bitter about adoption, I am sad about adoption because it is a preventable tragedy.  I am bitter about some things my parents visited upon me, but I can also distinguish their individual issues from the fact of me being adopted.  I can also say that adoption distinguished me and that it influenced some of my parent&#8217;s actions, which is an added burden for children.</p>
<p>Is it possible for an adoptee to be truly happy with their adoptive family?  Yes.  Part of them can be truly happy.  But part of them will always be deeply disturbed in some way by adoption.  There&#8217;s just no getting around this dichotomy.</p></div>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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